Apple Siri to Integrate Google Gemini AI Models [Model Behavior]

This episode covers Apple's upcoming Siri overhaul featuring Google Gemini, the retirement of OpenAI's GPT-4o model, and the emergence of distillation attacks by DeepSeek. We examine the geopolitical implications of the EU AI Grid launch and India's new 1.1 billion dollar deep-tech fund. The discussion also addresses internal friction at OpenAI regarding advertisement integration and the Pentagon's growing tension with Anthropic over military application restrictions. Finally, we look at the restructuring of xAI following its merger with SpaceX and the White House's opposition to Utah's AI transparency legislation.

[00:00] Nina Park: I am Nina Park.
[00:02] Nina Park: Welcome to Model Behavior.
[00:04] Nina Park: Model Behavior examines how AI systems are built, deployed, and operated in real professional
[00:11] Nina Park: environments.
[00:11] Nina Park: Joining me today is Thatcher Collins and our guest, Chad Thompson.
[00:17] Nina Park: Chad brings a systems-level perspective on AI, automation, and security, blending technical depth and real-world experience.
[00:26] Nina Park: Chad, welcome to the show.
[00:28] Thatcher Collins: Thanks, Nina.
[00:29] Thatcher Collins: You know, it is a busy week for infrastructure and safety shifts.
[00:33] Thatcher Collins: Glad to be here.
[00:35] Thatcher Collins: I am Thatcher Collins.
[00:37] Thatcher Collins: We are starting today with a major strategic shift at Apple.
[00:41] Thatcher Collins: Reports indicate that in the second half of February,
[00:45] Thatcher Collins: Apple will unveil a Siri upgrade powered by Google's Gemini models.
[00:50] Thatcher Collins: This is the first public result of their multi-year partnership and suggests Apple is prioritizing
[00:58] Thatcher Collins: third-party integration over its own internal development for this cycle.
[01:03] Thatcher Collins: Nina, it is quite the pivot from their usual siloed approach.
[01:07] Nina Park: Exactly, Thutcher.
[01:09] Nina Park: While Apple plans a more extensive overhaul later in 2026, this February release will
[01:15] Nina Park: likely be showcased through private briefings.
[01:18] Nina Park: Simultaneously, OpenAI has officially retired the GPT-4O model as of February 13th.
[01:25] Nina Park: The company reports that 99.9% of users have moved to GPT-5.2.
[01:32] Nina Park: Interestingly, this retirement occurs alongside wrongful death lawsuits mentioning GPT-40 specifically
[01:40] Nina Park: and the departure of researcher Leah Hitzig, who quit in protest over plans to integrate ads into ChatGPT.
[01:48] Thatcher Collins: From a systems perspective, the GPT-40 retirement is a cleanup of technical debt and legal risk.
[01:55] Thatcher Collins: But the more pressing technical story is what Google and OpenAI warned about this week regarding DeepSeek.
[02:02] Thatcher Collins: They are seeing distillation attacks where employees use obfuscated third-party routers to mask their identity while probing models to extract reasoning capabilities.
[02:12] Thatcher Collins: It essentially lets a competitor build a high-performing model for a fraction of the original training cost.
[02:18] Chad Thompson: That security risk is a global concern, Chad.
[02:22] Chad Thompson: We are also seeing a push for localized control.
[02:26] Chad Thompson: The EU AI Grid officially launched at the Munich Cybersecurity Conference,
[02:33] Chad Thompson: starting with a deployment in Vilnius, Lithuania.
[02:37] Chad Thompson: It treats AI like a metered utility delivered through local infrastructure.
[02:43] Chad Thompson: India is following a similar path of domestic investment, approving a $1.1 billion state-backed fund for AI and deep tech startups through a Fund of Funds model.
[02:58] Nina Park: While India and Europe build up, the U.S. is dealing with internal friction.
[03:04] Nina Park: The Pentagon is reportedly considering ending its contract with Anthropic.
[03:10] Nina Park: The dispute centers on Claude's usage restrictions.
[03:15] Nina Park: The military wants all lawful purposes access, but Anthropic is hesitant about unrestricted
[03:22] Nina Park: weapons development and battlefield operations.
[03:26] Nina Park: This tension peaked after Claude was used in the operation to capture Nicholas Maduro.
[03:33] Thatcher Collins: Mm-hmm.
[03:34] Thatcher Collins: Nina, the regulatory landscape is just as fractured.
[03:38] Thatcher Collins: The White House recently sent a letter to Utah state legislators calling their AI Transparency Act
[03:44] Thatcher Collins: HB 286 unfixable.
[03:48] Thatcher Collins: It seems the administration is trying to prevent a patchwork of state-level regulations
[03:53] Thatcher Collins: that mirror California's laws.
[03:55] Thatcher Collins: Meanwhile, Elon Musk's XAI has merged with SpaceX, but it has come at a cost.
[04:02] Thatcher Collins: Eleven engineers and two co-founders left this week, describing the safety organization there as essentially dead.
[04:10] Thatcher Collins: The XAI situation is particularly volatile.
[04:13] Thatcher Collins: Former employees claim there is an active effort to make Grockmore unhinged following the merger.
[04:20] Thatcher Collins: When you combine that with the distillation attacks and the collapse of mission alignment
[04:24] Thatcher Collins: teams we are seeing across the industry, the guardrails are moving faster than the models themselves.
[04:30] Thatcher Collins: It is a challenging environment for governance, Nina.
[04:34] Thatcher Collins: Between the Apple-Google partnership and the XAI restructuring,
[04:39] Thatcher Collins: the power dynamics are shifting toward massive infrastructure clusters.
[04:44] Thatcher Collins: We will be watching those private Apple briefings closely later this month.
[04:48] Nina Park: Thank you for the insights, Chad and Thatcher.
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Apple Siri to Integrate Google Gemini AI Models [Model Behavior]
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